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PostPosted: 08 Nov 2018, 16:46 
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http://www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1577/saaf-can-only-put-two-c-130s-into-the-air-at-any-one-time

Also of concern is that interest in procuring new transport has never been lower, basically there is none.

The Air Force has no budget, and manufacturers have given up.

Unfortunately it looks like the SAAF will loose its medium transport capability before new aircraft will be acquired, a unbelievable situation.


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PostPosted: 09 Nov 2018, 07:18 
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And you are surprised??

They'll rather try and save a mutual looted bank from Venda way.


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PostPosted: 09 Nov 2018, 17:31 
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GLF4 wrote:
And you are surprised??

They'll rather try and save a mutual looted bank from Venda way.


Am I surprised?

Yes I am.

As the news is released it's revealed just how bad the situation is. Remember information like this if true is not often published if at all, so yes it does come as surprise.

Its not just that there is no money, its that the problem extends beyond the Air Force. There is a difference between not having the budget to fly aircraft and not being able to support the airworthiness of aircraft. The amount of reinvestment in resources required to return the capability even now is more than simply acquiring new aircraft.

The next surprise could be that the C-130 fleet gets indefinitely grounded, and it won't necessarily be the SAAF's fault.


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The SAAF had zero light liaison/reconnaissance capability in the 2017/18 financial year with its entire fleet of Cessna 208s grounded. The report to the oversight committee has it the single-engined aircraft were “operationally unavailable due to [the] unavailability [of a] maintenance support contract being in place”.

Indications are AFB Waterkloof-based 41 Squadron will be airborne in January next year provided “the steady state maintenance support contract, in process to be finalised by Armscor, is in place”.

http://www.saairforce.co.za/news-and-events/1578/%EF%BF%BDcritical-maintenance-events%EF%BF%BD-impact-on-saaf-maritime-patrol-capabilities

Case in point, I did not know that 41 Sqn had been grounded and has been so for sometime already!


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PostPosted: 10 Nov 2018, 18:13 
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Why are you surprised or worried ? This is "progress" the Mzansi way. Spelt "ssergorp".


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Mistral wrote:
Why are you surprised or worried ? This is "progress" the Mzansi way. Spelt "ssergorp".


Why am I surprised or worried?

Simple answer, because its important to me.
This is not progress.

According to the two articles on any given day the following transport aircraft are available:
-2 X C130's (over 50 years old)
-2 X C47Tps (over 80 years old)
- No C208's (over 30 years old)

What about the Casa fleet?


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PostPosted: 11 Nov 2018, 07:33 
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CASA fleet is flying, but there's not many of them. They even repaired one that had been damaged in 2008 and put back into service in the past year.

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PostPosted: 12 Nov 2018, 20:48 
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Thanks Dean,

Lets say there are 2 Casa's available. That would bring the whole transport fleet to 6 aircraft available for daily tasking at best, maybe 7 at a push.


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Amazing. ZS-RSA BBJ did a flight today it seems as well. And ZS-NAN F900 is back in the air as well.


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Well done to the SAAF pilots that they're still able to fly long distance C-130 flights like the (senseless) flights to Cuba this past year, with so little flying time available.


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