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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2012, 14:22 
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Yes, far far away from a Battleship or a Cruiser...it is a 1700 tons ex Corvette that was transformed into an OPV by removing the missile weapons (Harpoons and Sea Sparrows).


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2012, 21:27 
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Roger the Dodger wrote:
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...the Spanish battleship...

The Spanish Navy has a battleship!?!?!?!?


I couldn't resist the temptation :twisted:

I know, I know, if that Spanish "vessel" was just a fraction smaller it would have been a canoe :lol:


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PostPosted: 23 Apr 2012, 22:11 
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I know, I know, if that Spanish "vessel" was just a fraction smaller it would have been a canoe


It's a far more economical vessel to chase pirates with than our frigates - and not much bigger than the SA Navy's original Project Taurus Joao Coutino class corvettes would have been. In fact it's a development of those. With fewer horses than a strike craft to feed it's also cheaper to run!


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PostPosted: 24 Apr 2012, 00:35 
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You´re right Eugene...maybe the only disadvantage of the Descubierta class is that they lack a helicopter.

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With fewer horses than a strike craft to feed it's also cheaper to run!


For sure that capability will be gained with the new OPVs.

PS: sorry about the off topic, but talking about Joao Coutinho class, it served as a basis also for the French A69 class corvettes, that were also considered for SA Navy (SAS Good Hope and SAS Transvaal).


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Tosk wrote:
PS: sorry about the off topic, but talking about Joao Coutinho class, it served as a basis also for the French A69 class corvettes, that were also considered for SA Navy (SAS Good Hope and SAS Transvaal).


That would depend on how much you are willing to believe a 1960s German coastal patrol vessel design could influence a French anti-submarine warfare vessel design.


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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2012, 09:22 
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So can we chalk this success up as a "kill" for Drakensberg?

I bet the Drakensberg boys will remind the Meko200 boys about their score: Drakensberg 1 - Frigate boys 0! wherever they happen to meet? :lol:


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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2012, 09:28 
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So can we chalk this success up as a "kill" for Drakensberg?


On what grounds?


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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2012, 09:38 
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Eugene wrote:
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So can we chalk this success up as a "kill" for Drakensberg?


On what grounds?


Active participation in a successful naval action that led to the utter destruction of the enemy fleet. :D And don't pretend that your gut feeling doesn't tell you that the Drakies crew will feel a bit puffed up about their real life (not practice exercises) success [-o<


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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2012, 09:43 
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koffiepit wrote:
Eugene wrote:
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So can we chalk this success up as a "kill" for Drakensberg?


On what grounds?


Active participation in a successful naval action that led to the utter destruction of the enemy fleet. :D And don't pretend that your gut feeling doesn't tell you that the Drakies crew will feel a bit puffed up about their real life (not practice exercises) success [-o<


As far as we can tell Drakies did nothing, never saw a pirate and was only in the same few thosuand square nautical miles of the action. Navy News isn't even bothering to report the incident.


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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2012, 10:11 
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Yup, complete non-event.

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Yup, complete non-event.


The ball never came near them, they didn't score the try - but hey, they were on the same playing field!


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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2012, 14:15 
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SOUTH AFRICAN NATIONAL DEFENCE FORCE ANTI PIRACY EFFORTS PAYS DIVIDENDS

Unknown to the public at large, a major multi-National anti-piracy operation took place off the East coast of our neighbouring SADC countries during the past week. South African Navy ship the SAS DRAKENSBERG played a major role in this operation.

It all started off with an unsuccessful pirate attack on a Filipino merchant vessel last Friday at the Northern end of the Mozambican Channel. At about the same time, the Maritime Rescue Coordination Centre in Dar Es Salaam raised concern regarding the safety of a South African owned yacht, the DANDELION, en route from the French Island of Mayotte to the Mozambican port of Pemba.

By Sunday, the French Navy, who takes responsibility for this area in terms of Search and Rescue, had requested the SANDF to assist in search efforts.

The SAS DRAKENSBERG, with anti-piracy assets onboard, was already conducting patrol duties in the Mozambican Channel at that time. This SANDF operation is part of an inter-governmental agreement between South Africa, Mozambique and Tanzania to safeguard SADC sea lanes from piracy and has seen SA Navy ships constantly deployed in that area for the past year. The South African ship immediately commenced with a search for the missing yacht with the assistance of its embarked helicopter and a French Maritime Patrol Aircraft.

During the Monday morning, the French aircraft located the suspected pirate mother ship off the Tanzanian coast and moving in a Northerly direction.

The pirate mother ship, with a skiff in tow, was identified as the Sri Lankan fishing vessel NIMESHA DUWA which was captured by pirates on 9 November last year.

At midday on Monday, the South African yacht was located off Pemba having been delayed after suffering technical difficulties. The operation now changed from a Search and Rescue mission to a piracy interdiction operation. European naval units participating in the anti-piracy Operation ATALANTA off the coast of Somalia, the Tanzanian Navy out of Dar Es Salaam, as well as the SAS DRAKENSBERG were being controlled via three different Headquarters in a coordinated multi-national operation.

By Monday afternoon, the Tanzanian Navy had provided permission to the SANDF to conduct anti-piracy operations within its territorial waters and the hunt was on.

During the next 24 hours, an intensive search was conducted by the SAS DRAKENSBERG and its SAAF helicopter along the cluttered Tanzanian coast. European and Tanzanian vessels were closing in from the North. Unfortunately, poor weather conditions hampered the search effort. However, the plan remained for the SAS DRAKENSBERG to force the pirate vessels to escape to the North into the waiting arms of the Tanzanian and European Union forces.

By midday on Wednesday, the concerted pressure of the search efforts had forced the pirates to split up and the skiff with 5 suspected pirates were located on Songo Songo Island and subsequently arrested by Tanzanian authorities.

Wednesday evening saw units from four different countries closing in on the estimated position of the pirate mother ship. The Spanish warship got there first and managed to capture the vessel by 20:30. Seven suspected pirates were apprehended and the six long suffering Sri Lankan crew members were finally freed.

The SAS DRAKENSBERG spent Wednesday night in the area to assist Tanzanian forces if so required. The suspected pirates have by now all been handed over to the Tanzanian authorities who will now start with the legal minefield of prosecuting them for crimes committed in International waters.

In the end, it seems clear that a loud message has gone out that SANDF forces, as part of SADC armed forces, will not allow illegal activities within SADC waters. It is also clear that the Tripartite agreement between South Africa, Mozambique and Tanzania, and the subsequent deployment of SADC forces to safeguard our sea lanes, is paying off dividends in ensuring the safety of our seafarers and their precious cargoes. To the sailors and air crew of the SAS DRAKENSBERG, the operational planners of Chief of Joint Operations and all others involved; we salute your valiant efforts!


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PostPosted: 25 Apr 2012, 23:51 
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Eugene wrote:
H1017412 wrote:
Yup, complete non-event.


The ball never came near them, they didn't score the try - but hey, they were on the same playing field!


Moerse thread dedicated to this complete non-event then. Only a couple of pirates apprehended and hostages freed. Happens dozens of times a day. Nothing to get excited about or even start a thread about.

Yes, and the last time I checked, all the members of the 1995 team that won the Rugby world cup got medals, not only those that scored tries. Because, it takes all 15 team members to help score a try. Take all the team members except for the two wings who are earmarked to score tries off the field before the game starts and see how many tries those two wigns will score :lol: =D>


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koffiepit wrote:
Moerse thread dedicated to this complete non-event then. Only a couple of pirates apprehended and hostages freed. Happens dozens of times a day. Nothing to get excited about or even start a thread about.


It's happening fairly regularly. Just no longer makes the mainstream news. The same Spanish vessel involved was involved in the apprehension of 5 pirates less than a month ago,


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Yes, and the last time I checked, all the members of the 1995 team that won the Rugby world cup got medals, not only those that scored tries. Because, it takes all 15 team members to help score a try. Take all the team members except for the two wings who are earmarked to score tries off the field before the game starts and see how many tries those two wigns will score :lol: =D>


So you see this event as the Wrold Cup? I see it as a backyard game between schoolboys.

My mother got two medals for participating in World War 2. The General service medal awarded to all Commonwealth personnel who had been in uniform for at least one day between 3rd September 1939 and 3 September 1945. The Africa Service medal for all personnel in uniform who had served in Africa. She never went further north than 1 Air Depot at Robert's Heights. It would be a desperately pathetic case of glory hunger to think that made her a war heroine.


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