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Its a beast!

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The LT-3 and the LT-2 are new when seen next to the FC-1. These add to the GB-1 and the LS-6, on the FC-1's list of precision bombs

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A PAF JF-17 crashed killing the driver, Mohammed Hussain . I met and spoke to the guy at Farnborough last year. RIP

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How are you doing ?

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"My dream is that somehow South Africans and Zimbabweans create relationships of such a nature that the Limpopo river is no longer a border, but is a source of water and food.” -Bishop Paul Verryn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueEbv02k7Ag

I am fine Sky. Thanks.

The pilot was found 2 -3km from crash site. Seem he ejected and the chute failed to deploy. MB seat.

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It seems to me that the folks at Martin-Baker have some explaining to do.
Failures of their products have made the news a little bit too often lately.

True - MB have some problems. It seems more so with the RAF incident because it seems to have been the cause.
With the PAF JF-17, the MB system failed to mitigate the consequences but at the moment rumours are it was a birdstrike/ingestion leading to an engine fire or flameout. Sqdrn Leader Hussain was trying to get to base but the plane hit the hillside a few kilometers away.

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ejection seats and their chutes scare the shit out of me. it seems the pilot has a 49.5% chance of reaching the ground alive

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"My dream is that somehow South Africans and Zimbabweans create relationships of such a nature that the Limpopo river is no longer a border, but is a source of water and food.” -Bishop Paul Verryn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueEbv02k7Ag

Those are still far better odds than remaining with the stricken aircraft

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chances of reaching the ground unscratched are next to none

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"My dream is that somehow South Africans and Zimbabweans create relationships of such a nature that the Limpopo river is no longer a border, but is a source of water and food.” -Bishop Paul Verryn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueEbv02k7Ag

From: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... ntent;col1



Ejecting is the lesser of the two evils by far. If you die after you eject, you have changed nothing, you have not made your situation any worse since on the plane you have 0% chance of survival and 100% chance of dying. However, there are very good chances, 92% if you consider the USAF data that you will survive if you eject. The ejection seat takes your chance of being alive in the next 10 seconds from 0% to 92%.

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Seems as if the ejection seat worked fine but the chute did not deploy. So it was a problem with the chute.

Also cracks have been reported on JF-17 wing roots.

Fuller image here: http://i.imgur.com/Pla7c.jpg



Kanwa had an interview with PAF's General Javaid Ahmed, during which he stated that:
- In 2012, they will be bring out the JF17 Blk 2. The main improvements are the addition of IRF, the development of a twin seat version, adding datalink and development of an export version JF17.
- happy with the performance of the KJL7, so no immediate plans to switch to AESA (KJL7 specs: detection range for fighter sized target 130km; can track 16 targets and engage 2 at the same time; have SAR mapping capability)
- The Chinese indigenous engine is currently undergoing flight testing and may be a while before it is fitted to a JF17
- In 2011 the JF17 test fired: 1 x C802 (hit a seaborne target 90km away, max range 180km); 2 x LS-6 bombs, one is a 500kg GPS guided weapon with 60km range and CEP of 15m, the other was a 250kg laser/IIR+GPS guided weapon with a range of 65km and CEP of 5.3-7.5m; SD10 and other weapons.

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These are from yesterday. No clue what it is carrying.

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