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Dean
 Post subject: SAAF Miscellanea
PostPosted: 16 Jun 2020, 16:09 
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The following snippets and quotes are copied from the Air Force Talk Whatsapp group and placed here for ease of reference.

Johan K:
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The SAAF's 1 Air Servicing Unit (1 AD in the old days) renders FÚLL D-Level maintenance support to the C-130BZ fleet, & executes ÁLL C-130BZ up to Major servicing at their MRO Division, aided by DENEL


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1 ASU does the WHÓLE spectrum: engine, airframe, propellers, ÁLL components (including landing gears, wheels, brakes, screw jacks for flaps & main gears, we also execute ÁLL NDT/NDE inspections on the WHÓLE aircraft Sir - DENEL does have members employed in collaboration with the SAAF members working at the MRO, so 1 ASU does Majors as well


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2asu detached services the dac fleet AND took over the F - servicing from Denel, so 2asu services oryx as well now

We busy with our first oryx f-servicing(major service) and getting an upgrade on the system

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 Post subject: Re: SAAF Miscellanea
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1 ASU renders the Deeper Level engine repair & maintenance support via 1 ASU's D-Level PT6 Engine Section, dedicated to render full support to the SAAF's 7 x models of PT6-A Series engines

PT6A-25C: PC-7 Mk II
PT6A-114: C208A Caravan 1
PT6A-41: King Air 200
PT6A-42: King Air 200B
PT6A-60: King Air 300
PT6A-65AR: C-47TP Dakota
PT6A-67B: PC-12

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 Post subject: Re: SAAF Miscellanea
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C160 Total airframe hours at Retirement on 8 January 1993:

Serial 331 - 7,014.1 hrs
Serial 332 - 6,455.3
Serial 333 - 7,309.4
Serial 334 - 6,507.1
Serial 335 - 6,769.4
Serial 336 - 6,496.0
Serial 337 - 7,762.8 went to SAAF Museum Swartkop
Serial 338 - 7,351.1 hrs
Serial 339 - 5,735.0 hrs

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 Post subject: Re: SAAF Miscellanea
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Buccaneer bombs:

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The loading of the bombay was a mission in itself. Not enough space so the tails had to be manipulated after loading into the correct release order. Many holes in my legs and back from arming wires.

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 Post subject: Re: SAAF Miscellanea
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Gripen cannon:

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the 27mm Mauser loads very fast. No need to remove the ammobox like in Cheetah. And then it's only one cannon in Gripen with the two in Cheetah.

I think accuracy is also much better

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Awesome stuff Dean!!! Wow this is gold... Don't suppose a fellow could get an invite to that SAAF watsapp group?
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james wrote:
Awesome stuff Dean!!! Wow this is gold... Don't suppose a fellow could get an invite to that SAAF watsapp group?

Here ya go: https://chat.whatsapp.com/CXRLfRsjBcKJtu2aUs5v5J (Air Force Talk)

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Thanks Dean!!
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Q: At what range would Rooivalk fire its unguided rockets and 20mm at a target on real Operations?

A: Cannon from 500m to 2500m, rockets normally 2000m to 6000m

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Hans de Beer:

There's a lot that can be said about colour coding of airborne weapons.

In short: The body colour of ammunition pre-1983 was used to indicate what type of ammunition it was. This changed after 1983 to a more camouflage type of coating, mainly as a requirement of the client.

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We never flew V3C on Cheetah E as far as I remember. Maybe at TFDC as I am not knowledgeable on what they did or did not do. The V3C was more of an F1 weapon. We flew V3B and later V3S on Cheetah E. V3S and V4 on Cheetah C.

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Wrt to the carrying of AAM:

Darren:
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The US approach:
ive = Fly, look, go, boom
CATM = Fly, look, no go, no boom
NATM = Fly, look, go, no boom
DATM = No fly, no look, no go, no boom


David R:
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Yes we used dummies as counter weight. IRIS-T we had CATM and DATM and OPS. If I remember correct the DATM was used for ground crew training only. Assembly/disassembly etc.

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Mistral on SAAF Museum Mirage III colours:

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RZ #835 was painted in the two tone grey and had sharkmouth painted prior to retirement and delivery to SAAF Museum Swartkop. It was then repainted in standard NATO grey/green/silver which was the original delivery scheme for all four RZs. These were taken from French production aircraft hence NATO camo.
RZ #837 was painted in three tone grey/blue low vis. Currently resides at Bloem in buff/green/blue with black nose cone (which is not correct).
RZ #838 was delivered to SAAF Museum swartkop with teeth added. Was in matt, feathered buff/green/blue. Later repainted after delivery to SAAF Museum in the gloss hard edge buff/green/blue which was used for R2Zs.
RZ #836 was modified with 09K50 engine as part of Cheetah programme. Airframe later used to repair Cheetah 844.

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Buccaneer mod 600 upgrade:

Johan Conradie:
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They installed the following;
Upgraded Blue Parrot radar.
New bomb door incorporating a 2000 liter fuel tank.
ILS system with aerials on both sides of the vertical tailfin.
New passive RWR system mounted in the bullet fairings front and back on the horizontal tailplane.
New rocket ejection seats.
New communications aerial below the portside of the cockpit.
Vortex generators on top of each wing to name a few.

The new navigation system was not part of the 600 series mods.

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Mirage 111RZ 838 arrived at the SAAF Museum with the shark mouth painted on. The shark mouth was originally painted on by the ground crew for a weapons camp held shortly before retirement of the type.

838's paint scheme was looking tatty and it was decided to get her resprayed.
A sponsor for the paint and the labour needed to do the job came to light, only problem was that the sponsor was situated in Randfontein on the West Rand.

The logistical problem was to get the aircraft to the sponsor, the SAAF couldn't help with the transportation of the aircraft and the only remedy was to tow the Mirage to Randfontein.
Approvals had to be obtained from the various authorities and various logistical nightmares had to be sorted out including spare tyres should there be a need to change tyres en-route.

When the Mirage arrived back at Swartkop it didn't have the shark mouth and it was decided that the shark mouth be painted on again.
This was done by Willie ( Buskruit) Burger who did an amazing job to get it right.

Peter De La Rey sourced the sponsor and got all the logistical nightmares and approvals.
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