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PostPosted: 27 May 2019, 21:52 
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In no particular order here are the tail numbers excluding the SAAF choppers, they were just too high and far off.

Out of interest there were four Gripen D's


Hawk 262
Hawk 263
Hawk 267
Hawk 259
Hawk 271

Gripen 3905
Gripen 3916
Gripen 3908
Gripen 3917
Gripen 3918
Gripen 3901
Gripen 3909

Hercules 406

PC-7MKII 2015
PC-7MKII 2036
PC-7MKII 2040
PC-7MKII 2060
PC-7MKII 2052
PC-7MKII 2034

Falcon ZS-NAN
Falcon ZS-CAS

BBJ ZS-RSA

King Air 652
King Air 650

Caravan 3011
Caravan 3005

Casa 8010

PC12 8030

A340 ZS-SNH
A340 ZS-SNE

Harvard 7111
Harvard 7024
Harvard 7643
Harvard 7231
Harvard ZU-CXX

Kudu 969
Bosbok 920
Cessna 185 718

Puma 175
Alouette 624
Alouette 628


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PostPosted: 27 May 2019, 22:06 
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H1017412 wrote:
That's quite a unique assortment of aircraft captured there Marc, well done!


Thanks H1017412, only in South Africa.

I am not sure but as presidential inaugurations go I don't think there are many countries that celebrate with a flypast?

GLF4 wrote:
I'd be interested in the serials of the 6 PC-7's in the red and white scheme as well. Was on the departure for RWY 01 and they departed RWY 19.


Serials posted above.

Aircraft were departing South using 19, recovering on 01. The first aircraft departed about a 1:30 hours before the run in. It was very impressive to see all the formation elements in holding patterns waiting for their time.

james wrote:
Interesting to see that two of the Gripens were armed with IRIS-T and one was carrying LITENING III. Probably to do with policing the no fly-zone over the inauguration?

No Turbo Daks took part? Great to see the Caravans flying again!

There was one short clip that popped up on the web of three C-130's flying in formation. Couldn't confirm whether it was maybe during the practice for the flypast, or from a past occasion? Would be interesting to know if we can still put up three Herc's at the same time.

Also sad to see the castle insignia on the museum planes taped over. Political correctness gone crazy. They are MUSEUM planes... History is just that... history and cannot be changed.


The clip of the 3 ship Hercules formation may have been from the previous inauguration.


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PostPosted: 28 May 2019, 07:00 
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Mars wrote:
In no particular order here are the tail numbers excluding the SAAF choppers, they were just too high and far off.

Excellent, many thanks!

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Mars wrote:
The clip of the 3 ship Hercules formation may have been from the previous inauguration.


Thanks!


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Harvard ZU-CXX is 7675, the number is visible on the wheel doors 100mm high.

Very hard to see the numbers, though it's the same as "Nellie", "The Pilot Maker", which is 7059 and likewise the numbers are the main-wheel doors.

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PostPosted: 28 May 2019, 20:54 
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AT6C wrote:
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Harvard ZU-CXX is 7675, the number is visible on the wheel doors 100mm high.

Very hard to see the numbers, though it's the same as "Nellie", "The Pilot Maker", which is 7059 and likewise the numbers are the main-wheel doors.

Geoff


Thanks Geoff,

I actually checked to see if I could spot the serial somewhere, forgot it was on the wheel doors.

When did "Nellie" become "The Pilot Maker", and why was the name changed?


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PostPosted: 28 May 2019, 21:56 
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Note that 3916 is missing the weapons rails.

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Thanks Marc


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Mars wrote:
When did "Nellie" become "The Pilot Maker", and why was the name changed?


Due to maintenance and celebratory functions the "Nellie" colour scheme changed a few times over the years and looked very tatty.

A decision was taken by the HCSA committee to respray certain portions of the aircraft, unfortunately the white portion was the worst and looked dreadful when viewed closeby.

Another decision taken was to allocate a particular aircraft only for training purposes and as 7059 was the only aircraft that did not have a SAAF livery it was decided to utilise 7059 in that role (one of reasons for the name change).

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Thanks Geoff,

Speaking of Harvard colour schemes I must say that the HCSA Harvard's do look smart in the non-standard orange.


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Mars wrote:
Speaking of Harvard colour schemes I must say that the HCSA Harvard's do look smart in the non-standard orange.


Thank you!

Luckily I can say that the SAAF used International Orange!

To re-paint an aircraft costs an enormous amount of money, with dayglo it's even worse as it fades quickly and requires a "sugar coat" every year!

The generation of funds is the big head-ache and some tasks require more funds than others.

I'm high-jacking the post here!

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