Mars wrote:
The converse view is that MOY does tend to pull old members out the wood work.
One also has to consider that there may be legitimate reasons as to why some members can only attend a few meetings a year. Quite a few of the members are professionals and their time is scarce.
In the end I would still rather see more models on the table than less.
I know there are some member that cannot attend every single meeting. I am not talking about them. We also have some long distance members who cannot attend.
Unfortunately what I am talking about as that there are members who do not want to attend any club meetings at all. Their only reason for their membership is to enter competitions to win prizes.
We had a case with the last MOY where a member said he rather stay at home than come to a club meeting as he sees that as a waste of time. Said member contacted me prior to competition to find out which classes was not entered yet, as he wants to enter those classes then. That information was not given, and he was upset about it. He did eventually enter some classes, but wanted to change some of his entries after he heard other people entered the same class(not sure where he got that info from)
We have a few other cases as well, and a lot of history of this and to me that is unfair to the guys attending all the meetings or some meetings during the year.
I also think we are losing the spirit of this hobby and possibly the real reason why we are doing this. We are getting to focused on competitions in the hobby. This we can see across the world and with other clubs. Why do we do this hobby? Just to win prizes or to actually doing something that we love.
This is why we the current committee is working on bringing back why we do this. One of the reason also why we started the changes on how MOY is being done by involving outside people to see what the hobby is about. Yes, there is still the competition aspect of it, but we want MOY to grow bigger than that. We want MOY to be a celebration of the clubs achievements and show case what our members are doing.
It is supposed to be all about the members and enjoying the day together. And that is the reason why I feel that guys that just join GRSM to participate in MOY only is a slap in the face for the rest of the members.
Stratobat wrote:
I sometimes wonder if there could not be a space for scratchbuilding to have it's own separate category. I understand what you are Mars have said regarding there not being a lot of scratchbuilding in your club but I still can not help but wonder if we're not in some sort of self limiting cycle where because nobody does it, it's not catered for and then because it's not catered for, nobody does it - If that makes any kind of sense.
Nope, there is no basic interest in scratch building, it is more what people want to build. We have quite a few other categories in MOY that is not being entered in, because there is no interest. But we keep them open just in case. The interest in our club is more WWII and mostly aircraft. There is some interest in Figures, dioramas etc, but the biggest contender each year at MOY is aircraft.
Just to give you an idea.
For the 142 entries we received 84 was aircraft which is 59% of the entries
17 Armor entries 11.9%
7 Rotorcraft 4.9%
1 ship 0.7%
and the rest was dioramas figure and civilian vehicles basically
Since I have started running the competitions 6 years ago, this on average what we get every year.
We had one scratch build entry in that time frame which was one of Pat's Ships.
IN the past we also had polls regarding on what members want to see, and scratch building was on it. It did not even reach the top 20 on the item lists that we had.
Stratobat wrote:
Regarding the judging system and the two Spitfires you mentioned, I agree with you and I think it's reasonable and fair to award points based on extra effort and risk undertaken by the modeller but on the other side of the coin, and in addition to the points raised by Mars, I think one should also be cognisant of the potential for resin and photo-etched parts to actually make a model easier to build.
That is one of the reason why I have not implemented it yet. Still in two minds on this. Maybe what I should is open up a topic regarding judging and run through the judging documents with you all and then we can see if it can be improved or left as is.
Dean wrote:
I can see the difficulty of trying to bring new blood into the hobby, but exclude the trophy hunters who do not want to contribute to the hobby/club.
As the competition is organised by GRSM, then only their members should be eligible to win prizes. Have a category for non-members, but those entrants can only enter once to win prizes, then they must become members to enter the following year. Non-member entrants below/above a certain age can also enter every year to win membership and smaller prizes.
Mars wrote:
Possibly the open category needs to be broken into age groups and experience levels. When models are entered someone would need to look at the model and categorise it within a skill level. The intention being to encourage new modellers and isolate the prize hunters. Whilst contrary to the points about the idea would be to ensure a degree of control so that the intended entrants are acknowledged for there efforts.
We had two open categories, One for Seniors and one for juniors. Of the juniors we had 4 entries The open categories last was a proof of concept to see if it will work, so we kept it basic. This year we will build on it, also depends if we get re-elected as the committee.
We want GSRM to be a club Focused on modeling and getting the fun back into the hobby. Also we are trying to grow the hobby.
Hope I am making sense, since I cannot seem to think properly this morning