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 Post subject: The Cuban T-62 tank
PostPosted: 03 May 2015, 04:50 
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Hi, I was discussing with some of my friends the merits / flaws of the Trumpeter 1/35 T-62 tank models.

the discussion came around to it's combat use. There are considerable number of books / articles on how it fared against the IDF Centurions. But other than a small paragraph in Dunstan's book Centurion vs T-62. I have not seen anything of it's use in regards to it going up against the Olifant / Ratel 90's etc.. can anyone tell me if the Cubans (from what i read they were the only ones using them) actually used them in combat ? And if so what was the outcome ? thanks. B.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cuban T-62 tank
PostPosted: 04 May 2015, 23:51 
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I'm looking through my books for the definitive answer ... haven't found it yet :(

I don't recall though, that the Olifant or Ratel90's ever came up against the Cuban T-62's.

The Ratel90's ... some spine chilling stories of how they took out T-55's ... =D> =D>

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 Post subject: Re: The Cuban T-62 tank
PostPosted: 05 May 2015, 00:07 
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Kremlin, I remember reading that quite a number of the T-54/55 were knocked out. Some captured intact as well. But i never read anything about the T-62 being encountered in battle and the outcome of that. So that's why i was wondering if anyone knew anything about that.
I do remember reading (recently) of a Cuban commanders T-55 being named Bartholeme (or some Spanish version of that name). that was somehow different from the other T-55's (not sure if it was camouflage of what). But it wasn't a T-62.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cuban T-62 tank
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Hi guys, I'm still trying to find something on the Cuban T-62 in Angola, from what i read they had about 30 of them there.

I'm not sure where I found this "note" to myself to look up at a later time, but it read..

"At Cuito Cuanavale by the river Chambingi, 50th Cuban division armed with T-62s halted South Africans 10 km from Cuito Cuanavale on 16 November."

As i said this was a note to myself to do research on the matter at a later time. So if anyone knows anything about it ?


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PostPosted: 08 May 2015, 23:11 
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I see in the book 'The War for Africa' Twelve months that transformed a continent, by Fred Bridgland makes some passing reference to T64 tanks. eg "The infantrymen, from Castro's elite 50th division, were backed by more than a hundred T55 and more advanced T64 tanks. A full array of Soviet mobile radars had been moved south....." Page 348.

Edit: As an aside, not sure if you've seen the SADF owned T72 MBT M1 purchased from Poland in later years for experimental & research purposes.
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=7396&p=90689&hilit=sandstone+heritage#p90689


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I assume that the purchase of the T-72s came after the USSR collapsed.. I can't see it happening before that. I don't think the Soviets would be too pleased with Poland. Great pics ! thanks, B.


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PostPosted: 08 May 2015, 23:42 
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I can't see the Cubans taking the time to change to camo-paint on the T-62 before shipping them to Angola..

http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww19 ... 2a_004.jpg

http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww19 ... 2a_003.jpg


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PostPosted: 16 May 2015, 22:34 
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Hi everyone.. well I have been looking around for a pic of a Cuban T-62 in Angola. But so far nothing yet. The only thing i have seen is a 5-6 second clip in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZKDeAXpaqA it's at the 31.15 minute mark. If you can stand the annoying rhetoric take a look at the T-62 there.. B.

i was able to get a screen grab here. http://burtpics.tumblr.com/image/119134294684


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 Post subject: Re: The Cuban T-62 tank
PostPosted: 17 May 2015, 05:52 
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Burt wrote:
If you can stand the annoying rhetoric take a look at the T-62 there.

I wanted to watch it for pictures, but, ..... stuff it.
What tanks are these at 30 s in this link? I don't know my tanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RefL01AipAU


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 Post subject: Re: The Cuban T-62 tank
PostPosted: 17 May 2015, 07:44 
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Those are T-54/55 you can tell by the fume extractor at the end of the canon barrel. You can see a lot of those, but as far as i have read during the war the cubans had only 30 T-62. And yes i know what you mean about watching it, i fast forwarded through almost the whole thing. Just looking for the tanks / aircraft. B.


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Kremlin wrote:
I'm looking through my books for the definitive answer ... haven't found it yet :(

I don't recall though, that the Olifant or Ratel90's ever came up against the Cuban T-62's.

The Ratel90's ... some spine chilling stories of how they took out T-55's ... =D> =D>



Hi Brent, I was wondering if you can recommend any books to read up on the "spine chilling stories".. summe ris here and i really need to read up on this conflict.

thanks. !


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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2015, 06:53 
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Thanks !! I'll look it up tomorrow.. time for me to hit the hay as they say here. !


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Dean wrote:
May I suugest Tumult in the Clouds? :wink:

I thought that book was about things that fly, and not things that crawl between bushes. :shock:
Never judge a book by it's cover. :lol:


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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2015, 16:08 
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Just did a quick preview of it on Amazon.. gonna get it today..


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