The SAAF Forum

Topic:
Transport, Maritime and Training (1950 to current) - Any SAAF related aircraft, either flown by the SAAF, flown by a South African or flown against the SAAF.

Scale:
Any

Duration:
2.5 months

Commencement date:
17 April 2012

Completion date:
30 June 2012



Paricipants

Member: Sakkieg
Model: 1/48 C-47 6877 Dazzledak

Member: Hornet01
Model: 1/72 P.166S Albatross

Member: NeedBeer
Model: 1/72 Shackleton

Member: T. van Vuuren
Model: Italeri i/72 C-47 Dakota


Member: mariussc
Model: 1/72 Dakota


Member: AT6C
Model: Bucanneer (1/72)

Ok cool, I'm in with a 1/48 C47 6877 Dazzledak

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Cheers

Sakkie

To fly is heavenly... To hover is devine!!
Semper in Excretia

I am in with the Broplan 1/72 P.166S Albatross.

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There are only two types of aircraft — fighters and targets.

I'll be doing the Schematic 172 Shackleton

Any suggestions for the correct colour to use on the Shackleton ie the grey/blue?

Preferably Tamiya but Humbrol will do - prefer to work with acrylic

Does an Airfix 48th Hawk LIFT count ?

On the SAAF Shackleton that I built 2 years ago I used the following Humbrol colours:
Blue - Humbrol 144 Intermediate Blue.
Grey - Humbrol 27 Sea Grey.

I used the Enamels but the grey 27 is available in the Humbrol Acrylic range with the same number, but not the intermediate blue 144 unfortunately.

According to the chart that Dean has put o the link up for these are the following in Tamiya Acrylics:
Humbrol 144 (intermediate blue) is Tamiya XF18 (medium blue)
Humbrol 27 (Sea Grey) is Tamiya XF54 (Dark Sea Grey)

Mine worked out quite well and the pictures are on the following thread: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3032 about halfway down the page. It has yet to have the decals put on and then matt clear coated.
That is the best I can work out, but maybe someone else has another colour code they used.

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So few, who did so much, with so little - the RhAF 1970 - 1980

Vulcanmx603: Thanks for your feedback on the paint colours & link - nice pics & some good work there. By the way which kit did you use for the Shackleton?

My knowledge of the subject is virtually nothing at this point, my research has just started, I just love the big old prop craft & the different colour scheme on the Shack. I was browsing through pics on the internet but was difficult to establish correct color SAAF scheme, particularly on upper wing surfaces- it would appear some are grey or blueish grey all over but I see yours has the grey upper wing - are there different schemes or its just not clear on the older pics I have seen?

I opened my kit last night & made a start on the cockpit. I did say I would need to step up my skills for this one - it is definitely going to be a challenge to get it up to the Forum's high standard!

Its a Schematic 1/72 from Poland, took 3 months to get here - must say a very novel outfit this! The sprues are all cut up & it arrived with the box bulging at the seams & many loose pieces floating around. The instructions are in Polish & the diagrams are not very clear but I'm sure I'll find my way through????

Thousands of raised rivets & panels(I just hope the seams are going to line up!), plenty flash & sink marks to clean up and very basic interior, no IP. Has anyone done this kit before?

The instructions show the SAAF decals with refernce to RAE Farnborough 1961?

The SAAF decals are a laugh, look like fat goats rather than nimble springboks - (Dean has my order for some Mav replacements, due to arrive by special courier early May)

As I said its going to be a challenge but looking forward to sharing my first build here with you

Here's some pics I took last night, hope this connects, let me know if not

http://i1234.photobucket.com/albums/ff4 ... C_0450.jpg

The following is an extract from “A portrait of Military Aviation in Southern Africa" by Ron Belling:

NeedBeer,

I've done a couple of kits of the Shackleton over the years and still have Frog,Novo,Model.....( name I forget,but can go and look in the storeroom).

The kits are all come from the same mould that was made by Frog long ago.

You have a choice of 3 colour schemes for the Shack.

Extra Dark Sea Grey / PRU Blue with Springbok roundels,although only a few aircraft had this scheme.

Extra Dark Sea Grey / PRU Blue with Springbok Castles.

Extra Dark Sea Grey / PRU Blue / White roof with Springbok Castles.

The Humbrol colours are Extra Dark Sea Grey - H 123

PRU Blue - H 230

The Shacks that are on display at Zwartkops and Ysterplaat have a weathered effect on the aircraft as they are exposed to the elements.

If you need any help,please let me know.

Geoff

Would those Humbrol numbers also work for the Albat? What are the FS numbers for these colours?

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There are only two types of aircraft — fighters and targets.

I see Dean classified the SAAF aircraft under three main categories under the gallery-and-media selection namely SAAF Fighters, SAAF helicopters and SAAF transport. There the Harvard is classified under transport. In light of this it means that I can continue with my previous group build, extending the time with 2 and a half months, as my Harvard of the 1st GB also fall under SAAF transport…

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There's no such thing as a good or bad gun. A gun in the hands of a bad man is a very dangerous thing. A gun in the hands of a good person is no danger to anyone except the bad guy.

PRU Blue - FS 35189 = Humbrol 230 = Vallejo 157 = BSC636
Extra Dark Sea Grey - FS 36118 = Humbrol 125 = Vallejo 163 = BSC640
This is according to the Ultimate Paint Chart.

I will be using Vallejo acrylics on my Albat.

Now, does anybody have pics of the interior of the Albat, especially the rear. There are some decent pics available for the console and I took some pics of the pilot seats in December at Swartkops. So please anybody, I would really appreciate any pics.

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There are only two types of aircraft — fighters and targets.

You guys are a wealth of information - thanks for the feedback!

I think I'll do the white top version

Now to get on with the job