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Hi everyone

I was just wondering. It wood seem that the aircraft heading to Gabon have paint schemes that look very fresh. I also saw that understandably some Bly AF signs on flaps and so on have been changed to the local language.

Would it be true that these aircraft were fully repainted (not so sure) or did the just change some vital stencils.

I do hope that the Congo and Gabon appreciate and use their Mirages more than we do our Gripens

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I was just wondering. It wood seem that the aircraft heading to Gabon have paint schemes that look very fresh. I also saw that understandably some Bly AF signs on flaps and so on have been changed to the local language.

Would it be true that these aircraft were fully repainted (not so sure) or did the just change some vital stencils.

I do hope that the Congo and Gabon appreciate and use their Mirages more than we do our Gripens

MAMBA


To me I would say that the Gabon aircraft have been repainted but the Congo one 232 looks a lot more weathered and if you look on the air intake you can see where it has been freshly repainted on the grey and the borders of the green and brown in the same area.


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Now for the mother-load !!!

I received the following from the "Obi-Wan Kenobi" of SAAF profiles, Piet van Schalkwyk. These are correct & photographically confirmed. The last two probably explains why everybody thought there was eight AZ's for Gabon ...

239 – TR-KML delivered Gabon Aug 2006.
241 – TR KMM delivered Gabon Aug 2006.

236 – TR-KMN delivered Gabon Nov 2007.
244 – TR-KMO delivered Gabon Nov 2007.

217 – TR-KMP delivered Gabon Aug 2010.
219 – TR-KMQ delivered Gabon Aug 2010.

243 originally TR-KMQ, now TN-363 delivered Congo, Aug 2010.
237 originally TR-KMP, now TN-362 delivered Congo, Aug 2010.

THANKS PIET :smt023 :D

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Awesome work and thanks to Piet van Schalkwyk! Any chance he'd be willing to post those pics?

So this is the table as I have it now:

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+--------+---------------------------------+--------------------------+------------+---------------------------+--------------------------+
| Serial |             Status              |     Present Location     | New Serial |           Owner           |           Note           |
+--------+---------------------------------+--------------------------+------------+---------------------------+--------------------------+
|    216 | Stored but apparently airworthy | Aerosud/ AFB Hoedspruit? |            | Paramount?                | SuperMirage with SMR-95  |
|    217 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KMP     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Aug 2010       |
|    218 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    219 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KMQ     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Aug 2010       |
|    220 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    221 | w/o - 1992/02/05                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    222 | w/o - 1985/04/03                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    223 | w/o - 1988/03/19                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    224 | w/o - 1994/06/09                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    225 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    226 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    227 | Stored                          | AFB Waterkloof           |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    228 | w/o - 1984/03/13                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    229 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    230 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    231 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    232 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    233 | Stored but airworthy            | Aerosud/ AFB Hoedspruit? |            | Paramount?                | Blue/yellow paint scheme |
|    234 | w/o - 1993/11/23                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    235 | Stored                          | SAAF Museum, Zwartkop    |            | SAAF Museum               | 'Milk Truck’             |
|    236 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KMN     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Nov 2007       |
|    237 | Operational                     | Congo-Brazzaville        | TN-362     | Force Aérienne Congolaise |                          |
|    238 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    239 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KML     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Aug 2006       |
|    240 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    241 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KMM     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Aug 2006       |
|    242 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    243 | Operational                     | Congo-Brazzaville        | TN-363     | Force Aérienne Congolaise |                          |
|    244 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KMO     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Nov 2007       |
|    245 | w/o - 1988/02/20                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    246 | w/o - 1979/02/15                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    247 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
+--------+---------------------------------+--------------------------+------------+---------------------------+--------------------------+

Edit: Changed 237 to Force Aérienne Congolaise


Last edited by Darren on 07 Oct 2013, 19:37, edited 1 time in total.

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PostPosted: 07 Oct 2013, 18:57 
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Nice work Darren. :smt023

Darren wrote:
Awesome work and thanks to Piet van Schalkwyk! Any chance he'd be willing to post those pics?

So this is the table as I have it now:

Code:
+--------+---------------------------------+--------------------------+------------+---------------------------+--------------------------+
| Serial |             Status              |     Present Location     | New Serial |           Owner           |           Note           |
+--------+---------------------------------+--------------------------+------------+---------------------------+--------------------------+
|    216 | Stored but apparently airworthy | Aerosud/ AFB Hoedspruit? |            | Paramount?                | SuperMirage with SMR-95  |
|    217 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KMP     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Aug 2010       |
|    218 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    219 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KMQ     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Aug 2010       |
|    220 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    221 | w/o - 1992/02/05                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    222 | w/o - 1985/04/03                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    223 | w/o - 1988/03/19                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    224 | w/o - 1994/06/09                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    225 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    226 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    227 | Stored                          | AFB Waterkloof           |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    228 | w/o - 1984/03/13                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    229 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    230 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    231 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    232 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    233 | Stored but airworthy            | Aerosud/ AFB Hoedspruit? |            | Paramount?                | Blue/yellow paint scheme |
|    234 | w/o - 1993/11/23                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    235 | Stored                          | SAAF Museum, Zwartkop    |            | SAAF Museum               | 'Milk Truck’             |
|    236 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KMN     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Nov 2007       |
|    237 | Operational                     | Congo-Brazzaville        | TN-362     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  |                          |
|    238 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    239 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KML     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Aug 2006       |
|    240 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    241 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KMM     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Aug 2006       |
|    242 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
|    243 | Operational                     | Congo-Brazzaville        | TN-363     | Force Aérienne Congolaise |                          |
|    244 | Operational                     | Gabon                    | TR-KMO     | Force Aérienne Gabonaise  | Delivered Nov 2007       |
|    245 | w/o - 1988/02/20                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    246 | w/o - 1979/02/15                |                          |            | SAAF                      |                          |
|    247 | Stored                          | AFB Hoedspruit?          |            | Paramount                 |                          |
+--------+---------------------------------+--------------------------+------------+---------------------------+--------------------------+


Just a thought, it would be nice to have a sticky with this table, with it being updated as required.
Also, tables for F.1CZ, Cheethas, Mirage III's. I know it requires work, just a thought.


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Nice work Darren. :smt023

Just a thought, it would be nice to have a sticky with this table, with it being updated as required.
Also, tables for F.1CZ, Cheethas, Mirage III's. I know it requires work, just a thought.

Thanks Jeffrey. I agree on the suggestion, so I'm working on a way to automate it and make it easier for those on the forum to make changes. We can then have up-to-date status tables on all ex-SAAF types.


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Magic Darren :smt023 =D>

Just change the owner of #237, to Force Aérienne Congolaise. :wink:

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Magic Darren :smt023 =D>

Just change the owner of #237, to Force Aérienne Congolaise. :wink:

Oops, I had a feeling I had an error somewhere! Thanks.


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What's the story with 227 - owner SAAF (not SAAF Museum) and stored at Waterkloof?


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Where is the Mirage F-1 in this picture??

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MAKS Air Show, Zhukovskiy, Russia, 2001. Aerosud/Marvotech flew Mirage F1AZ #216 aka the 'SuperMirage' F1 to MAKS to highlight the aircraft's re-engining with the SMR-95 (modified RD-33) and the fitment of Vympel R-73 (AA-11 Archer) air-to-air missiles.

It was flown by 'Blokkies' Joubert who came away with the MAKS award for best display if I recall correctly, making him the first Western pilot to receive it.


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Blokkies told us a tale about that day, the evening he was at Ysterplaat ( BTW - where is the DVD Dean? )

He was told by the russians where his fly zone is, and in the event of him straying outside that area, they'll come to shoot him down.

His reply was: "You can come and try..."


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Thanks Darren and Rynopot, those are the stories we love to hear. :smt023


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