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 Post subject: Re: Project Cava?
PostPosted: 30 Nov 2018, 16:56 
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Yes that's the one :smt023

Talking of Mirage 2000, I remember David Fabish working at Denel circa 1986, my last year of vacation work there.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Cava?
PostPosted: 01 Dec 2018, 19:01 
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mamba wrote:
Mistral wrote:
Very nice work there Mamba :smt023 . I'll go with that as an XDM (Experimental Development Model) so please can you give us an ADM (Advanced Development Model) version converted with double delta wings and wingtip missile rails. A niggling thing in the back of my mind makes me think that's how the wing would've been designed. I have a nice computer generated image of a Cheetah C with this type of wing plan and this may have been a precursor to Cava's wing configuration.


Thank you guys! Glad she has had a good reception here. I have a few other SAAF things I might post in the future.

Are you talking about this image Mistral?:
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Those canards look smaller than the normal C canards?

Perhaps in the future I might do a second Carver ADM. :lol: Luckily if anyone wants to prove me and my Carver wrong, they are more than welcome to produce the required drawings and or models to back their case. :wink: I went the Mirage 2000/4000 route since, well, they were well represented in terms of designers in the Carver project... :twisted:



To make the timeline correct this particular image come from after Carver was cancelled and we switched to design excercises of Cheetah wing upgrades ultimately resulting in what we called the "advanced combat wing"

The small canard is the "70%" canard of the Cheetah E and D's The Cheetah C had the full sized Kfir Canard.

An interesting thing I discovered, being in Switzerland, is that one ex Swiss Mirage Jockey told me that the Swiss invented the 70% canard (which was put on all the Swiss Mirage III's) and sold the idea to the SAAF. It had the advantage is that no structural reinforcing of the fuselage frame was needed for the smaller canard and it was just as effective.


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 Post subject: Re: Project Cava?
PostPosted: 03 Dec 2018, 22:21 
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C'mon Deltawingman, share some more info on Cava (Carver) wing plans and fuselage configs... [-o<


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 Post subject: Re: Project Cava?
PostPosted: 03 Dec 2018, 22:23 
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Deltawingman wrote:
To make the timeline correct this particular image come from after Carver was cancelled and we switched to design excercises of Cheetah wing upgrades ultimately resulting in what we called the "advanced combat wing"


As tested on 855 :smt023


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 Post subject: Re: Project Cava?
PostPosted: 03 Dec 2018, 22:25 
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Mistral wrote:
C'mon Deltawingman, share some more info on Cava (Carver) wing plans and fuselage configs... [-o<


And by the way, the Pilatus PC-24 looks really great :smt023 :D


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