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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2022, 12:54 
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Many years back, I think in 2008, I was at the airshow in Ysterplaat.
I recall seeing a Buccaneer front fuselage section/cockpit training rig on display.
I took photos, but these seem to have been lost in the mists of time..
It was large...fully the same size as a Buccaneer from around forward of the wings onwards. As said, it could have been an actual Bucc...It was displayed outside.
I'm going on memory here over a decade and a half ago, so hope I have the description right.
Does anyone know about this object, or even better, have pics?


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PostPosted: 18 Apr 2022, 18:27 
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The Port Elizabeth branch of the SAAF Museum has the Buccaneer simulator which I doubt was ever in Cape Town as I recll it went straight to PE after been withdrawn from service.

The Cape Town branch of the SAAF Museum has indeed a nose section of a Canberra T4 457.


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PostPosted: 19 Apr 2022, 13:11 
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I don't think the Buc sim was ever at Ysterplaat, may have been the Impala sim you saw.

These photos were taken at PE in 2014.

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PostPosted: 19 Apr 2022, 16:43 
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It wasn't that simulator.
It was what appeared to be an entire Buccaneer front fuselage, from the intakes forward.
It was big, solidly engineered (not a plastic mockup) and painted in the SAAF blue/grey as used on the Bucc near the end of its service.

It was outside a hangar, away from the main exhibits/thoroughfare.

It intrigued me at the time,vwhich is why I took the photos, which are now since lost.


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PostPosted: 21 Apr 2022, 21:30 
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The Buccaneer simulator now at the PE Branch of the SAAF Museum is the only SAAF front fuselage section I have ever seen. (Non-flying)
All Buccaneers that crashed while in SAAF service are accounted for and no front fuselage sections survived the crashes intact, excluding possibly those lost at sea and never recovered.
The Buccaneers remaining at the time of their withdrawal from service are all still extant, most being accessible to the public for viewing.
I think the confusion comes from the significant alteration to the simulator undertaken in Port Elizabeth to allow it to be displayed in a room at the Museum having limited access.
Note that the Ysterplaat Museum did have (still has?) the nose of a T4 Canberra, removed from a SAAF Canberra, tail number 457, while still in service and replaced by an ex-Rhodesian Canberra B.Mk.2 nose. This transfer was undertaken in order to replace the Canberra B(I).Mk12, tail number 452, lost in Angola.


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