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PostPosted: 22 Nov 2017, 14:19 
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Let's hope it's them, it would be a great save!

How would the aircraft be able to pick up a heat signature without being able to detect what it is? Isn't it a heated detecting radar that should also detect shape/size?
Just asking out of the lack of knowledge...

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Not looking good.


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How sad. The Argentine navy and government will have a lot to answer for.


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And they only disclose this now?

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Dean wrote:
And they only disclose this now?


Crazy! Apparently they only told relatives just before the press conference.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -crew.html


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According to the BBC, we have sent aircraft or ships, anyone know anything about that?


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Foxtrot wrote:
According to the BBC, we have sent aircraft or ships, anyone know anything about that?


I read an article a few days ago stating that we were one of the countries to offer assistance. But I don't think we sent anything.


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As I mentioned before,the submarine was a bit long in the tooth..being cut in half for a refit,The Argentine navy are not telling the truth what happend to about their un seaworthy sub..now all the truth is coming out..if they had a hull failure they all dead.

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The Argentinians are certainly being economical with the truth ...

28 Nov 2017: News24
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Argentina: Water got in submarine's snorkel, caused short circuit

Water entered the snorkel of an Argentine submarine and caused one of its batteries to short circuit before the vessel went missing 12 days ago, a navy spokesperson said on Monday.

Hopes for survivors have been largely crushed by reports of an explosion detected near the time and place where the ARA San Juan was last heard from on November 15.

Since then, there have been no signs of the sub or debris despite an intensive multinational search. Experts have said the crew had only enough oxygen to last up to 10 days if the sub remained intact but submerged.

The navy said last week that before the submarine went missing, the captain reported an electrical problem in a battery compartment and the vessel was ordered to return to its base in the coastal city of Mar del Plata, about 400km southeast of Buenos Aires.

Navy spokesperson Enrique Balbi told reporters on Monday that the captain said water had entered through the snorkel when the sub was charging batteries.

The water went through the ventilation system to a battery connection tray in the prow and "caused a short circuit and the beginning of a fire, or smoke without flame", he said.

Balbi said the captain later communicated by satellite phone that the problem had been contained.

"They had to electrically isolate the battery and continue sailing underwater to Mar del Plata using another battery circuit," Balbi said.

The San Juan, a German-built diesel-electric TR-1700 class submarine, was commissioned in 1985 and was most recently refitted in 2014.

Some family members have denounced the navy's response to the disappearance and the age and condition of the vessel. President Mauricio Macri has promised an investigation.

The navy says more than a dozen countries are still helping search for the sub in area where the explosion was recorded about 430km off the coast of Argentina.

Balbi said a Norwegian ship carrying the US Navy's underwater remotely operated vehicle and its pressurised rescue module was expected to arrive to the search zone later on Monday.

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After an event like that, why would you want to remain submerged and continue your journey with no escort?

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And this, folks, is why overhauling a submarine takes so long. Every single millimetre of weld, gasket, bolt, nut, washer and o-ring must be checked, rechecked and checked again before being inspected one more time.


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Just strange how the Argentine navy is slowly giving more info..as the time goes on..do they know more than they have said already??maybe waiting for the crew to be confirmed lost before they own up with more info..??on the dog of the submarine they put their submariners in..

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Airfire wrote:
the dog of the submarine
Are there grounds for this? If it was 50 years old and had never been serviced, I'd be happy calling it a dog but it sounds like it's had quite an extensive refit reasonably recently.

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The Argentinians are certainly being economical with the truth
And what Defence Force ever gives out all the information immediately after losing an asset? I'm surprised this came out at all - I would expect it to be included in an incident report that then has a Secret stamp applied to it!


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When its not your time to die..Argentine sailor escapes death before submarine left.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... spare.html
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