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 Post subject: Into The Fray
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2011, 04:17 
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I have so many ideas floating around in my head. But if I actually want to build my confidence with a brush and get anywhere with these ideas, I need to get painting and practise.

I've had an idea for a painting of a flight of Spitfires peeling off to an attack for ages, it will depict four Mk.Vb's of 92 Squadron breaking right from line astern to intercept bandits somewhere over the Channel. The background will be lots of fluffy clouds with the Channel in the distance below and ahead.

If my drawing skills were very rusty I'd be happy, but after years of neglect, they're not. So holding a pencil and pushing it around felt a bit foreign to begin with! It's amazing how dependant I've become on computers. My old Creative Director used to always tell us draw your ideas on paper, get them down there, and as the new age computer kids that was just so old fashioned. But... It is a useful tool and I've used it setting this composition up.

I found a very basic 3D model (basic as in corners are squares lol) in Sketchup and used that to help with the distances and angles, once I was happy, I blew it up and used that as a base to work from. I've sat for hours getting the shapes of the aircraft right before tracing that onto the canvas where I've added the roundels and squadron markings, control surfaces, radiators etc. I apparently can't draw ellipses like I used to either! So far it all looks about right. There are a few issues that I've seen having taken a pic of it, perspectives on fuselage lettering is out a bit, some of the roundels are a bit wonky, and a few other things like radiator and undercarriage positioning and control surface deflections (I was so busy concentrating on getting the shapes right I forgot about that!). I'm happy with the drawing so far though and will iron out the niggly bits as I paint. I'm not looking forward to trying the prop ellipses in though!

This will be oil on canvas board 30" x 20".

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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2011, 05:14 
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Hi Monique,
You must post some pics when it is complete. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2011, 07:19 
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Phew wee! :smt023

Looking really nice. =D>


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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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Even if you leave it just like that, it will be a piece of artwork on it's own! Yeah would like to see it once done!

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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
PostPosted: 04 Nov 2011, 09:41 
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Awesome Monique :smt023 \:D/

Can't wait to see this one develop, please post progress pics :D

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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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Thanks guys, I'll post pics as I go, WIP of sorts.

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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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Go for it - lovely talent to have! :smt023

And then the second work of art -

- a pair of SAAF F1AZs over the Angolan bush .... 8) :D :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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Hey Tally, I was going to call this painting Tally Ho, but Michael Turner's already done that ;)

PM me details then for the F1's...

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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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Monique wrote:
Hey Tally, I was going to call this painting Tally Ho, but Michael Turner's already done that ;)

PM me details then for the F1's...


How about "Bandits! One-o'clock, low!"?


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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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Nice, I might use that for a future piece :smt023

What I had in mind for this was that ze Germans are at about 5 o clock down below and the Spits are peeling off to come diving out of the sun onto them.

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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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Monique wrote:
Nice, I might use that for a future piece :smt023

What I had in mind for this was that ze Germans are at about 5 o clock down below and the Spits are peeling off to come diving out of the sun onto them.


Given the peel off and dive manoever you have them in they appear to be going after bogeys at 1 or 2 o'clock low.

To engage bogeys at 5 o'clock low, they would be doing a split-S with a roll to the right.

The "clock" is horizontal with 12 dead ahead and 6 behind you, 3 o'clock is 90 degrees to the right and 9 o'clock is 90 deg to the left.


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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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Yeah, I'm quite familiar with the clock, and ACM and tactics.

With this, enemy aircraft are a good few miles, and a few thousand feet, to the South and below. The Spits are rolling right, then arresting the role, then pulling through to come out the sun in a long, fast dive.

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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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Now I get it. My mistake was to assume the bogeys would be in the picture, near the bottom right corner.


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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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Roger the Dodger wrote:
Now I get it. My mistake was to assume the bogeys would be in the picture, near the bottom right corner.


hehehe, ja, they're not in the pic. I could have said that at the beginning too hey?

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 Post subject: Re: Into The Fray
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I've done a very basic background underpainting in acrylic with what I had in mind. Now I don't have a white canvas staring at me anymore!

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